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Knuckle Knocked Out: Rumors Swirl Around Departure Of DOC Flack

IndcorrectionIf you believe what you hear on the streets, Indiana Department of Correction Commissioner J. David Donahue terminated the agency's public information officer on July 6. (What else are we supposed to think when he sends out an e-mail announcing her departure, effective immediately, at 4:46 p.m. on the Friday after the Fourth of July?)

From: Donahue, Dave
Sent: Fri 7/6/2007 4:46 PM
To: #DOC Parole Supervisors; #DOC Superintendents Reentry; #DOC Superintendents - Adult; #DOC Superintendent - Juvenile; #DOC Central Office Staff Cc: #DOC Supt Secretaries; #DOC Parole Supervisor Secretaries Subject: Staff Announcement

I regret to inform you that Java Ahmed is leaving the Department effective Friday, July 6, 2007. We wish her well with all her future endeavors. In the interim all media advisories should be reviewed from the field by Rich Larsen, PIO of Wabash Valley Correctional Facility.

Now, here's where things get interesting. The rumor mill is bubbling that not only did Ahmed not leave of her own accord, but she also had several pending complaints against senior management that were never acted on. The agency reportedly is negotiating a severance with her, perhaps as part of a prevent defense strategy. What's the word?


I guess RSM isn't doing enough cheerleading. I understand somebody making positive responses to the DOC stuff on this thread, but what's with the BMV and Mitch for VP propaganda?

Posted on Branchville's forum last night:

Escapes bring added razor wire, rule changes at prison


Movement of offenders restricted since escape

BRANCHVILLE - New strands of razor wire, additional lighting and beefed-up restrictions on the movements of offenders at Branchville Correctional Facility in Perry County are among changes put into place since two men escaped last month, the medium-security facility's superintendent said last week.

Speaking to a community advisory board, Gil Peters said offenders are now confined to dormitories between sunset and sunrise. Those who must leave their dorms for medical attention or other reasons are escorted by correctional officers.

During daytime hours, the process by which offenders leave one area and report to another has been changed to ensure men arrive where and when they are supposed to, Peters said.

Additional razor wire has been added in corners of the fence and a third strand of razor wire has been added around the entire perimeter of the facility. A fourth strand is possible, Peter said.

The changes follow the April 4 escapes of Kent A. Day, 45, and Conan L. Helsley, 20. The two men scaled a fence that Friday night and were on the run for more than a week before their capture in Warrick County. Day was serving a sentence for murder and his escape created alarm locally and in the Madisonville, Ky., area, where officials believe he and Helsley headed.

Peters outlined the response to the escapes, which he said were discovered quickly after an officer noticed that one of the men had not returned after a medical call. Since the next scheduled offender count wasn't until midnight, the quick discovery limited the two escapees' head start.

State and local police aided the prison's emergency-response and canine-search teams. The two men are suspected of stealing a truck near Interstate 64 Sunday morning and other vehicles in Kentucky.

Day suffered a serious cut from the razor wire while escaping and that injury helped lead to their capture, Peters said.

The last successful escape from Branchville was in the mid-1990s.

Peters said he and his staff want the community to know steps are being taken to lessen the chances of another successful escape.

"We've learned from this experience. If we see more changes are needed, we'll make them," he said. "Community safety is our top priority."

Some new lighting has been added and a project to install high-mast lighting around the facility is still in place. A proposal to remove many of the trees within the prison fence is being studied. Removing trees would reduce shadows and aid visibility.

Peters said a glitch in an alert-notification service designed to place automated calls about the escape has been fixed. The service allows people who want to be alerted to escapes and other emergencies at Indiana correctional facilities to register for a free service. However, calls about the Friday-night escapes did not begin until the next morning.

To register for the service, call toll-free (866) 949-2537.

Always a Medium Security Facility

Headlines about April's escape raised eyebrows from some in the community who were surprised that convicted murderers were housed there. However, Branchville Correctional Facility has long had violent offenders serving the final years of their sentences, Peters said. Though it housed only minimum-security offenders when it first opened in the early 1980s, Branchville has always been a medium-security facility.

Current guidelines allow offenders with up to 15 years remaining to serve to be placed at Branchville, meaning an offender such as Day serving a decades-long sentence who has abided by rules at other facilities can be housed there.

Approximately 1,300 men are housed at Branchville and all will eventually return to their communities.

While the escapes locked down the facility for several days, educational programs offenders participate in are continuing, Peters said. Several dozen offenders received associate and bachelor's degrees from Oakland City University Thursday and Peters said it's important that offenders at Branchville, all of whom will eventually be released back into the community, receive the education and job skills they'll need to avoid returning to prison.

"Just because we had one bad experience, we're not going to stop our programs to break that cycle (of recidivism)," he said.

“We have 5000 fewer employees, which is about 15% [fewer] than three years ago,” the governor says proudly..."

Okay I get that some "streamlining" of government is desirable...but this guy is proud and gloating over the fact that 5000 people lost their jobs. The state isn't like GM or other corporate giants that invest time & money in "re-training" "displaced" workers...the state pretty much just lets you go. How many of these 5000 were able to find employment at a comparable payrate? How many had to re-locate their families? How many lives were negatively impacted?

Making government more efficient and effective takes way more than just cutting jobs out of the picture (as we in DOC have seen all too well). It just makes me sick that Mitch is proud of this.

"YAY! Mitch Daniels is GREAT! I saved $24 in property taxes. THAT'S RIGHT. $24. For the YEAR. Thank GOD I won't be paying that much in the increased sales taxes. Oh crap. Wait a minute..."

In case you'd like to open a business with that? Mitch could really use some new jobs to announce. Don't worry they only have to last until November.


YAY! Mitch Daniels is GREAT! I saved $24 in property taxes. THAT'S RIGHT. $24. For the YEAR. Thank GOD I won't be paying that much in the increased sales taxes. Oh crap. Wait a minute...

Is that from the Yay Mitch rooting section??

McCain's Veepstakes: Maybe Mitch?
John Gizzi
Human Events; May, 2008

On Monday, May 5 -- before his fellow Indiana Republicans renominated him for a second term -- Gov. Mitch Daniels met with me at his cavernous office in the State Capitol in Indianapolis. A few weeks ago, there had been speculation in the press that 59-year-old Daniels, onetime top aide to Sen. Richard Lugar (R.-Ind.) and Office of Management and Budget director under George W. Bush, might be on John McCain’s list of potential running mates.

“John’s too smart for that, and I’m too smart for that,” says Daniels with a laugh, noting that the Hoosier State has not gone for a Democrat for President since 1964 and that he would have to relinquish the GOP nomination for another term in the job he loves Tieless and wearing a checkered shirt, without any press aides or other staffers in the room, Daniels proceeded to point out the paintings of his predecessors that fill the walls of his office and tell me anecdotes about each of them. He recalls Robert F. Kennedy and his dramatic victory in Indiana’s last contested Democratic presidential primary (1968) until this year. The Republican chief executive knows quite a bit about the late New York senator and he sometimes startles Lincoln Day audiences by quoting RFK.

“We don’t know what Bobby Kennedy would have been like had he not been assassinated in 1968 and been elected President,” says Daniels, “But let’s face it -- he had his experience with big labor and big business. He had certain instincts that conservatives shared. He was very suspicious of concentrated national power and had some seminal ideas about local empowerment in the short time he was [a presidential candidate].”
The governor goes on to give me a jolt by inquiring by name about my wife and her sister, both of whom he last saw more than fifteen years ago. As one former Indianapolis newsman later told me, “Mitch is Karl Rove in elective office. Whether it’s history or political contacts or names of people, he’ll retain it if he feels it’s important.”

He’s What McCain Isn’t

But it is Daniels’ mastery of economic and budget issues that makes perhaps the best case for him to run with John McCain, who once admitted that economics is not his strong suit.
A graduate of Princeton and Georgetown University Law School, the young Daniels worked on the staff of then-Indianapolis Mayor Dick Lugar from 1971-76 and, following Lugar’s election to the Senate, on his Washington staff from 1976-82. He ran the National Republican Senatorial Committee when Lugar was chairman of the campaign unit (1983-84) and then served as Ronald Reagan’s White House political director from 1985-87. Following stints as chief executive officer of the Hudson Institute and president of the Eli Lilly Company’s North American pharmaceutical section, Daniels went back to the public sector when he accepted President-elect George W. Bush’ offer to become budget chief.

In that job, Daniels’ passion for spending cuts earned him contempt from many lawmakers, with then-Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens (R.-Alaska) remarking that the only way the OMB director could repair his relationship with Capitol Hill was to “go home to Indiana.”

He did. In 2004, Daniels defeated Democratic Gov. Joe Kernan and thus became the first Republican governor of the Hoosier State in sixteen years.

Looking back at his OMB days, Daniels doesn’t argue with the charge that Republicans lost the lower spending issue in the last couple of words. As he told me, “I happen to agree we didn’t get done nearly what needed doing in terms of weeding the federal garden. It wasn’t for lack of effort on the part of some of us, but you can’t quarrel with that verdict. One thing I like about my present opportunity is that here you can cut spending and make it stick.”

He then made a strong case that he has taken his “present opportunity” and made good on promises to not only lower taxes, but reduce the size of government.

“We have 5000 fewer employees, which is about 15% [fewer] than three years ago,” the governor says proudly, “We just passed the biggest tax cut in state history, which is a one-third reduction in property taxes and a permanent cap on homeowners at 1%, rental property at 2%, and business property at 3% (of assessed value). Those are just caps. After the reduction, most property will be below those caps. It’s a protective ceiling, it’s a maximum.”

Daniels also noted that he has overseen a change in state tax laws that benefits small business and fresh industry in the state. He recalled how “until three years ago, if you bought a piece of new manufacturing equipment, there was no sales tax. It was deemed a tool of work. But if you bought a piece of lab equipment, or, say, a computer, you did pay sales tax. We abolished that. It was a very backwards looking view at the economy. A spectrometer or a centrifuge was not viewed as a tool of work.”

(A strong executive hand in balancing the state budget comes not from the line item veto, which the governor of Indiana does not have, but from impoundment and rescission powers. The state does not have to spend every penny the legislature votes for. Recalling how Presidents used to have similar powers with regard to Congress, Daniels observed that “Presidents lost it in the Watergate period. It’s one of the casualties of Watergate. Impoundment and rescission power was taken away from Presidents. [Rescissions exist] in extremely weakened form.”)

If there is any criticism from conservatives on the Daniels Administration’s tax and spending agenda, it comes from his successful push for increases in sales and cigarette taxes as he was overseeing the cuts in the property tax and the accompanying caps. Daniels admits “We raised the sales tax 1%, but there’s a $1.72 of reduction [reduced property taxes] for every dollar of sales tax. We returned some of the surplus to taxpayers and the caps deliver the rest of the relief.

“So for many homeowners, even after the relief is delivered, they’ll still be above a 1% cap. If so, next year, then you’ll get a haircut down the middle to 1% and that can’t be shifted to someone else.”

As for the cigarette tax, the governor insists he is not a “nanny state man”, that he has not supported a statewide smoking ban that has been enacted by many sister states.”

“I have struggled with this,” Daniels told me, “I’ve been a very active proponent of better health behavior, as we are one of the least healthy states in the country. We have the second highest rate of smoking, and one of the lowest cigarette taxes. By the way, President Reagan said “you want more of something, tax it less. If you want less of something, tax it more.” I don’t have any problem with a consumption tax on something you wish people would rather didn’t consume. We used every penny to fund the free market health care for the uninsured.”

Overall, Gov. Daniels gets high marks for his performance from conservative groups such as the American Legislative Exchange Council. In a recent ALEC study completed by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore, Indiana was rated twelve out of fifty in terms of economic outlook (the forecast based on the state’s standing in terms of policy varaibles such as marginal personal and corporate taxes and debt service as a percentage of tax revenue.

Other accomplishments of his tenure include a ten-year plan (“Major Moves”) to privatize state transportation assets instead of raising gasoline taxes or state borrowing. Last year, Daniels was one of three Republican governors who wrote President Bush to urge a veto of the $35 billion extension of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) passed by Congress. He believes “SCHIP has its value, but not without limit. The argument, as I recall it at the time, was should Hoosiers be subsidizing health care for wealthy coastal people. It was headed for four-times poverty. It wasn’t SCHIP, yes or no. It was SCHIP to what reasonable limit. But if you think that Republicans have to have our own answers, then I’m for it. We passed what I believe is the most free-market plan for the uninsured around. Basically, it’s HSAs, it’s for low income people, with a couple features I believe enhance that model.”

Considered a cinch for re-election this fall, Daniels’ coattails may even turn the one-seat Democratic edge in the state House of Representatives into a GOP majority. This was one topic of discussion three colleagues and I had with three prominent Republicans over dinner at the Oceanaire Restaurant in Indianapolis on the same evening I met with Daniels. No one really took seriously the idea he would be put on a national ticket -- well, not exactly. When the subject came up, all three began discussing just what mechanism would replace Daniels as the gubernatorial candidate if and when he got the call from McCain.

The Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles has created an online tool that allows customers to conduct 10 different services through the Internet.

People can set up online "myBMV" accounts to access driving records, reserve a personalized license plate, renew registrations and order duplicate car titles.

But the one online service drivers say they want most -- license renewal -- is still not available over the Internet.

In fact, online license renewal is banned by Indiana law.

BMV Commissioner Ron Stiver wants to change that. He said 25 other states allow online renewals, and it is the most requested online service.

Some limitations would be in place, he said. Online renewals could be done only once every eight years, for example, to make sure ID photos are relatively up to date. People who have changed addresses would have to renew in person.

Legislation to allow online license renewals in some cases cleared the Indiana Senate on an unanimous vote earlier this year, but the bill died in the House.

Bill sponsor Sen. Earline Rogers, D-Gary, said House members were debating a contentious immigration proposal at the time, and some worried that illegal immigrants would see online license renewals as an easy way to get identification.

Stiver said he plans to ask the General Assembly to approve online license renewals in its 2009 session.

In the meantime, BMV customers can use online accounts to access the newly offered services.

Customers must submit their driver's license number and the last four digits of their Social Security number to set up a free account. Account holders can then pay for online BMV transactions using a credit card.

About 25,000 people already have set up a "myBMV" account, and more than 43,000 transactions have been recorded, BMV officials said.

7:57 AM -- Voters reveal their choices
Voters in metro area polling places revealed their ballot strategies this morning.
Banker Ike Coney, 59, said he voted for Sen. Barack Obama and Democractic governor candidate Jim Schellinger

“This is the first year that we have a choice, I think,” Coney said after voting in a Johnson County polling place at Center Grove Middle School.

Sales represtantive Bob Rose selected a Democrat ballot with the general election in mind.

Rose said he voted for Hillary Clinton and Jill Long Thompson, the other Democrat running for governor. Rose said he supports Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels and things Long Thompson will be a weaker opponent.

It was clear that voters in this staunch Republican area were crossing over in the primary.

Precinct inspector Rose Hinesley implored Republicans at the middle school to pick a GOP ballot.

i'll not only buy these by the case but because so many other people will too i'm going to buy stock in the company!

That is PERFECT!


Check it out. I don't think it came from this thread, but it certainly will work for me!

We already do have to cover our eyes in shame. JDD has destroyed and embarassed this organization, all for his attempt at personal glory. The consequences will have to be paid by this state for years!


It blows my mind that Donahue has managed to remain as Commissioner. The last time this happened was under Gov. Robert Orr with Gordon Falukner. The gold faucet fiasaco! It took Gov Orr forever to relaize that the complaints within the DOC about Faulkner were valid. Concerns way beyond gold faucets. Faulkner was a control freak, had good ole' boys galore surrounded him, was a womanizer, heavy heavy drinker which led to many midnight rages, managed by intimidation etc. But the gold faucets were criminal and his downfall. Misappropriation of state dollars. Because of the media. Falukner became such an embaraasment to the Orr administration that he had to go.
Seems the republican Daniels is as hard headed as republican Orr. To some degree the aides to the gov are responsible for letting this happen. They are the ones who feed information to the gov.
As far as incompetence goes; Donahue is far worse than Faulkner. Faulkner did know the criminal justice system. He let his power become a weapon; his ultimate downfall. Doanhue is an idiot, sexist, bigot, evil, destructive, of no value. He doesn't even have a small grasp of the criminal justice system. He fails on all counts.
Ditch Mitch in November. Cast your ICA/ACA vote against Donahue. We sure don't want him representing the State of Indiana in an elected office of ACA . We would have to cover our eyes in shame.

6:36pm explains perfectly why PREF and all of JDD's other "programs" don't work and aren't effective to reduce recidvism. they make it all up and then change it every few weeks. It is just another wharehouse for JDD to ship offenders and he wants to make it look like its a great thing. But it is a stupid nothing. I know offenders came back out of there glad to be out because there is no program it doesn't help and it is disorganized and nobody knows anything. Whoever said PREF should be the training site was right.

sorry 12:37 they don't tell us stuff like that. we just work there.


It changes every day. OKAY, maybe I was exaggerating. It does change about every 3 months, though. Beyond that, central office gives us orders to apply for offenders that don't qualify, they deny offenders that do qualify, so all in all, it's a crapshoot. Tell him to talk to his case manager about applying.

I was wondering if anyone here could give me some info on the Plainfield Re-entry... My guy heard a rumor they might have changed the amount of time that you have to have left to go there... but they dont tell him anything so he asked me to look and i cannot find anything, the website does not say anything. He would really like to go there if it is going to help him ready to come home but we dont know anything.

Thanks so much and God bless!

So do I understand this right? The Governor has given away more than $64,000 as 'reward' to these state employees for basically just doing their jobs? I mean really do any of these accomplishments really strike you as going "above and beyond"? Call me cynical, but it just seems to me like reducing waiting times, getting a WorkOne office re-opened ASAP, etc. is part of the job work that I would expect. But MMM gives out over $64K for it? And in the meantime I have to bring in my own copy paper?

Rounding up escapees and absconders is yet another one of those "other duties as assigned."

Since when is rounding up escapees and absconders the DOC's role?? Our job is to keep them secured inside...but when they do get out (because of low staffing, no training, no equipment and bad supervision) then that is reported to county sheriff and state police and they go get them. And it's a big deal that we actually have a list of who they are? Isn't that a no-brainer? HOW EMBARASSING!

What the hell else is DOC going to submit? We aren't doing anything efficiently or effectively or best practice or anything that 'delivers measurably better performace for the taxpayers'.... The only thing DOC is doing right now is hanging on by our teeth and praying that the worst doesn't happen today.


See, I knew you would all LOVE IT!

How did identifying over 1,000 escapees over the past 60 years save the Indiana taxpayers any money? Is this the best that the DOC could submit for one of these awards? Pathetic.

How hard is it to identify the ones who have escaped? Are they not listed in the OIS program????? Just make a list of the names.

If I thought it would possibly actually get him out of our hair sure I'd vote for him. Twice! But since he's just an idiot, I guess he loses my vote. Very cathartic.

I voted against JDD in the ACA election, too! MAAAAN, that was a good feeling! :)

Donahue tries his best to be somebody of importance. Hence he is running for Director of Association of State Correctional Administrators. Strange though. Seems a man who is so hung up on his own importance and position in life would be running for an office with a little more clout. Probably the only position avasilable that he could get his foot in the door and he probably nominated himself.
I received my ballot in the mail today. Filled out and returned immediately with a no vote for JDD. So glad I am an ICA/ ACA member. So nice to have the right to vote
against the man.

and I wonder how many were just technical violators who long ago "re-entered" the community and actually ended up being safe, tax-paying, law-abiding citizens? But we sure got 'em, didn't we JDD?? Great use of DOCs incredible vanishing budget.

We are rewarding somebody for using time to go back to 1950 to identify people that have escpaed justice. We are up to our eyeballs with here and now problems, offenders, and injustices. We are doing a poor job of managing what we have now. Why in the heck are we reaching back sixty years. Can you beleive it ....sixty years. What a joke. Donahue is an idiot and MMM is an idiot for thinking that the time and energy spent on this was good and needed. Huge waste of time and taxpayers money.

You will love this:
Press Release
INDIANAPOLIS (May 8, 2008) – Governor Mitch Daniels today presented the fourth round of Governor’s Public Service Achievement Awards to 64 state employees representing 12 agencies.

“Services have been streamlined, millions of tax dollars have been saved, and efficiency has improved in many places because of talented state employees who are proving they can compete with anyone,” said Daniels. “Those who deliver measurably better results for taxpayers deserve better recognition and tangible rewards.”
Some of the accomplishments being rewarded include:
-A team of employees from the Bureau of Motor Vehicles call center dramatically reduced customer call holding times and the number of abandoned calls.
-Two employees from the Department of Workforce Development set up a temporary Vincennes WorkOne field office in less than 48 hours after the office was destroyed by a weekend fire.
-An employee from the Department of Administration has helped save the state more than $2 million since January 2007 through negotiating state contracts that historically had not been negotiated.
-An employee from the Department of Insurance helped the state collect more than $406,000 in back child support owed by insurance or bail agents licensed in Indiana.
-A Department of Correction employee assisted in the identification of more than 1,000 Indiana offenders who have escaped justice since 1950.
-A team of employees from the Public Employees’ Retirement Fund made significant improvements in customer service including reducing by more than half the average number of days it takes to receive a retirement check.
The governor created the Public Service Achievement Award in December 2005. State agencies submit nominations of individuals or teams for review and recommendation to the governor. Teams receive up to $5,000 to be divided among team members while individual award winners receive a medal and $1,000. In 2007, awards were presented to 47 state employees.
A list of award recipients and their accomplishments is available at: http://www.in.gov/gov/uploads/2008_Program_final.pdf.
Information on previous award winners is available here: http://www.in.gov/spd/2438.htm.
Source: Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels' Office

6:44a I know we work at same place. But if you are young and cute and ride a harley then you can be promoted too right.No experience needed just suck up. He does not want experience just ones to tell him he is right about evrything.

And his little dog too


AHHHHH sums it up perfectly.

For all you ACA members: Mr. JDD thinks so highly of his self that he is running for Director of Association of State Correctional Administrators (through ACA). INTERSTINGLY ENOUGH... any of you who have the incredibly painful task of completing the ASCA survey for your facility, this is it. Interesting we never had to complete this stupid, pointless @SS survey until JDD came to town, and now he is benefiting (personally) from Indiana's participation. AHHH!!! I don't know how much more I can take of this self serving prick.

7:41 - "Do your job, keep your mouth shut and ride this nightmare out."

WOW. I couldn't have said it better myself. There was a point in time where I had gotten myself into the "up and comer" group. Then JDD came in. Since our worst fears and the rumors were confirmed, that is EXACTLY what I've been doing for the last 3 years. I want no part of his shenanigans and certainly don't want to put myself in the position of having to SEE him or ANSWER to him. Too risky and too scary for me. I love the line "ride this nightmare out". PERFECTLY stated. Good job!

I don't know Mr. Ronay but you are describing our superintendent that for sure. We seen the commisioner treat him like embarassing right in front of everyone, and no one like that but then he acts the same as JDD like that's the way he should be! Promotes unexperienced staff who need training and should not be in charge, and makes lots of decisions that dont make any sense, and doesn't tell staff anything just his favorite circle. We never know whats happening. we all see how he treats the suckups and sorry but he has lost lots of respect and trust. No respect and low moral and the worse will happen sooner or later.

Well, it's certainly true that he does suck up to Donahue, but not sure at this point that he can be redeemed. He has spent to much time and effort proving that he is like his master. Disrespecting his staff, calling them out over the tiniest of details, and belittling them in front of others. The gloried traits of JDD, but any good leader will tell you that those are not good leadership or management skills. Just because you can do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. It's really too bad Mr. Ronay doesn't understand that concept. Many people who once respected him have watched fawn over JDD and have wathched the way his has treated his staff and no longer respect him. Loss of respect from your colleagues equates to inability to effectively do your job. He needs to go just like the rest of them as he has invested too much in their success.

7:41 you nailed that one. But you can insert a half dozen names there and everything still applies.

Ronay,Ronay, Ronay. What you see as being loyal to the chain of command is really sheer stupidity on your part. Why do you have such a need to gain approval and validate your value by kissing the butt of the little man. Come on Dan, you are better than that. If you really want to prove your value, skill, and ability do what is right. Stop sucking up. You are better than that. Much better. For a man who wants to be strong, valued and respected you sure are weak, not respected, and negate your real value with misplaced loyalty. You can do your job and do it well without getting involved in the political agenda of Donahues. Back off! Do your job, keep your mouth shut and ride this nightmare out. Stop justifiying his existence. It really isn't necesary, isn't your job, and isn't to your advantage. Get to training and stop blowing smoke.

Seen posted today on BCF's forum:



Good idea. Won't ever happen. wasn't JDD's idea. Nothing happens unless it is JDD's idea. "Ideas for Change"is a joke, it a way to get on the troublemakers list.

I don`t think DOC is short on beds for level 1 facilities, ecxept for wanting to prematurely move guys into level one. And they`re getting rushe into work release.

Turning the PREF into the DOC training site is perfect

Good idea for training except we're already short on beds for prisoners. If we didn't have PREF we'd need to move the guys somewhere else. where will that be?

They want ideas? Here is one. Turn the area where the current PREF is, into a training center for IDOC. It is central located, like the Law-enforcement Academy. Ideal class room spaces, training for emergency teams,etc. The offenders have not stopped learning and are really enjoying the current climate of no training. Indiana could once again be the Best in Training! It took years of trial and error to get training where it was. Now look at it-pathetic!

I'm glad for you. NC corrections has a good reputation. But it's sad that IDOC sends its assets to other states.


Give credit to NCDOC for being smarter than JDD. PREF doesn`t work very well.

You know I got tired of people telling me that if I did not like the IDOC, I could just leave. I did! I did leave and have been working for the North Carolina Department of Correction for over a year. What a breath of fresh air it has been. Staff are actually kind to each other. My supervisors are actually glad to see me and let me know I am doing a good job. And best of all there is no Mitch or little dog. Free at last. Thank God I am free at last. By the way some representatives from the North Carolina Department of Correction actually toured PREF, saw that it did not work very well and rejected the concept for North Carolina.

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