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Friday Open Thread: Careful The Spell You Cast, Not Just On Children

Thumbsdown That was a really disappointing winter storm effort, Central Indiana.

You go sit in the corner and think about what you've done to the local media, all of whom were banking on a day, if not the entire weekend, filled with snow stories.

Everyone else, buddy up and find something to talk about.

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Does anyone know why Ms. Phil's Cafe is so popular?

Bauer and Bosma may be a lot of things, but idiots they are not!

Petty Cash wrote: "For the life of me I never understood why he hung out with the likes of Bauer, Bosma, et al. A collection of village idiots."

Well, it's the same reason an ugly skinny girl will hang out with fat chicks...they make her look better.

Sorry - I pushed the post and it clipped out a couple of paragraphs - this should make more sense.

There's nothing inherently wrong with home-schooling. If you think about it, moms have been doing it forever from the first time you talk your baby.

However, before you latch onto it as an alternative to public (or private) school, you should know that most home schooled kid, when mom and dad finally acknowledge that there's more to an education than books and field trips, have a very difficult time adjusting to structure and socialization. Think about it - four or five years studying when, where and how you damned well please and suddenly you have to conform to the masses.

Certainly all schools are not the same. Just like shoe sizes there's a school that will fit better for some children than for others.

And while you're fussing about "producing a home" and then paying property taxes on it, consider this: You "produce" children and you'll pay sales tax on everything you purchase for them. You go to work and you "produce" a product or service and the business will be taxed. If you buy too much, you can go into bankruptcy and you may lose your assets, which can include your house.

Your house costs the city money: fire, police, streets, sidewalks, snow removal. Perhaps instead of property taxes, we should just send you a bill for your portion! Call it what you will, but you don't live here for free. And if you don't pay your portion, they're still going to come after your assets.

The reality is people are buying more than they can afford, be it lousy mortgages or too many credit cards. So let's not blame the legislature or those of us who choose to live within our means for your inability to live within your means!

There's nothing inherently wrong with home-schooling. If you think about it, moms have been doing it forever from the first time you talk your baby.

And while you're fussing about "producing a home" and then paying property taxes on it, consider this: You "produce" children and you'll pay sales tax on everything you purchase for them. You go to work and you "produce" a service or product and the business will be taxed. If you buy too much, you can go into bankruptcy and you may lose your assets, which can include your house.

Your house costs the city money: fire, police, streets, sidewalks, snow removal. Perhaps instead of property taxes, we should just send you a bill for your portion! Call it what you will, but you don't live here for free. And if you don't pay your portion, we're still going to come after your assets.

The reality is people are buying more than they can afford, be it lousy mortgages or too many credit cards. So let's not blame the legislature or those of us who choose to live within our means for your inability to live within your means!

Lance, not that you'll believe me, but public schools don't have low standards. When's the last time you were in a public school? My husband is an elementary school teacher in the suburbs and has gotten home-schooled kids after their parents decided teaching is not as easy as it looks, and boy, are they behind!

I attended the Rally. Didn't find any errors in the speech-it was very well done. People came in from all over Indiana. Those whose religion is the State will have a problem with those who think we have, in that building, 150 property robbers engaged in serial and illegal property theft. But, it will be a good argument to have in public between those who have produced (their home, for instance) and the parasites who want to steal the home and overspend the money on some rathole from which they prosper.

"would love to have a feed from the miller rally today.. esp to see the crowd... did they drag the schoolkiddies out of all those NO IN Christian schools and the widows outta the old folks homes? Or did they just recruit the local Indy homeschoolers with kids under 6?"

You shouldn't stereotype homeschoolers that way. There's the nut contingent, just like anything else, but most people who homeschool (or intend to, like me) are just fed up with the low standards in our public education system.

eric miller- indiana's own Fred Phelps!
God hates eric miller! another radical fundamentalist extremist. I wonder what Mr. Miller thinks about Utah's Warren Jeffs?
does eric miller sodomize his wife? or does his wife do him?
I bet he's a real freak! inquiring minds want to know.
Islamic extremism- made in America! greely colorado.
google "sayyid qutb" in wikipedia, or so on.
ohh the irony!

"Ball State study says eliminating the roughly 5,800 elected officials recommended by Kernan-Shepard would result in between $200 and $400 million in savings each year."

Ah, but if one actually reads the entire study, a somewhat different scenario emerges. The last paragraph:

"The actual capturing of gains from consolidation is, therefore, a matter of speculation. Yes, there is evidence from cross-sectional county data that gain is potentially there. Yet there may be reason to believe that whether they translate into lower costs government may be crucially dependent on factors of local political culture, citizen participation and monitoring of elected officials and the actual process of government reorganization."

So let me see if I understand this correctly. I'm giving up my right to vote in return for some hypothetical neogov that may or may not realize any savings or efficiency at all. No thanks.

Y'know, both Into The Woods and Sweeney Todd are full of eminently hummable tunes. Why does everyone say Sondheim can't write melodically?

Heck, "Send In The Clowns" from A Little Night Music is as good a tune as has appeared on stage in the last half century. I don't know about y'all, but I like my music with an undercurrent of complexity.

WF
(who just received the rough mix CD of his piece Rational Exuberance, performed by the Czech Philharmonic; what can I say? I'm in a good mood)

would love to have a feed from the miller rally today.. esp to see the crowd... did they drag the schoolkiddies out of all those NO IN Christian schools and the widows outta the old folks homes? Or did they just recruit the local Indy homeschoolers with kids under 6?

oh, yeah...regarding weathercasters:

I had to plan a lengthy car business trip today, and make the go/stay decision before 5 last night. I listened to them, and waived it off.

I listened for two hours to the news yesterday afternoon. "Snow!" "Panic!" "We have radar and compputerized gizmos!" Damn them all. Again. How many times do we have to get this over-hyped weather nonsense? Tornado time, here it is again. Enough already.

And my neighborhood Marsh was outta Egg Nog at 6 pm. (But they DID have my favorite wine. Bzzzzzzz)

For the record, the next time Chuck Loften tries to jump into my lap with his poor Willard Scott-friendly imitation, he's gonna get a knuckle sandwich. What a goof.

Chuck the the Lite Gov: fingernails on a blackboard. Equally intellegent.

Nope - ,no snarkiness here this time. It's a little known fact that TDW has a hell of a set of pipes (so does Baby TDW if the delivery room was any sort of a indication). TDW sang with the IU Singing Hoosiers in college (as did I). TDW's parental units are both professional musicians, but Dad TDW is the one with the really great voice. His mother was a radio singer on WGN-Chicago when she was in high school and college.

Did anyone really doubt that David O. could raise some serious money? I'm guessing by May he'll have 300-500 grand.

Whether you like him or not, he's intellegent, raises good points and generally elevates any discussion in which he participates.

For the life of me I never understood why he hung out with the likes of Bauer, Bosma, et al. A collection of village idiots.

Jealous idiots, too.

If ever in doubt about which candidate to support, generally, vote for the brains. I know, even geniuses make stupid decisions, but over the long haul, it's a better choice.

We may not have the most accurate weather forecasters in the U.S. (ok, world); but, we have some of the prettiest!!

Eric Miller sez "Tell the Governor and the General Assembly to step up to the plate and hit a home run for Hoosiers! Vote to repeal property taxes!"

Blue Indiana is reporting that David Orentlicher has raised $170,000 for his Congressional race. WOW!!

Ball State study says eliminating the roughly 5,800 elected officials recommended by Kernan-Shepard would result in between $200 and $400 million in savings each year.

http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?id=27617&ts=true

No one can cover secretive gambling games because they are all too busy showing off the slush on Meridian Street...and the south side...and the west side...and in Carmel. Even Kevin Rader had to report on the drive in to work today. Poor Kevin...

HELP!

I am trapped in the State House and Eric Miller is ramping up a rally in the rotunda. I can't do this. I can't deal with 4-year-olds carrying signs that say "God Hates Gays." People are already showing up. He has stacks of 'terrible towels' that have "REPEAL PROPERTY TAXES" printed on them. Help me. Please. THEY ARE RIGHT OUTSIDE MY OFFICE! Someone, please, come get me.

Was that MomTDW sarcasm?

A pitch-pipe is a lot more portable and a tad cheaper than a piano, TDW ...

I hate the weather people

But she sings "real good" :-)

Nay, I didn't.

I go with lyrics that are stuck in my head. That score happened to be on top of the pile when I went to plunk out some tunes for the baby last night.

(Much to my parents' chagrin, the years of piano lessons they paid for never really took. I only use the instrument as a tool to find the right notes to sing.)

Man, you really love Into The Woods, don't you?

Did you ever take my advice and go see Sweeney Todd?

Here we go again, the House has passed another expansion of gambling.

This time they want to reward the bars that are being cracked down upon from last session for illegal Cherry Master machines and Pea Shakes with legal pull tabs.

Guess this involves a lot of money in Northeast Indiana based upon Senator Long R-Ft. Waynes policy U-Turn on the illegal gambling crack down and support for pull tab gambling.

Could someone shed some light on the secretive games being played around our state's multi-BILLION dollar gambling industry?

Maybe the Attorney General or a Federal Abscam type sting, or a Investigative Media Report like the one on our politicians behavior surrounding the Build Indiana Fund.

Pull-tabs earn House go-ahead

http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080130/NEWS07/801300380/1002/LOCAL#

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